tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4060845208960850368.post2420189099108239233..comments2024-03-28T20:14:05.276+00:00Comments on E7 Now & Then: 39a - 49a Woodgrange Road- regeneration plans gain planning approvalMichelle Ohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02786732761856671353noreply@blogger.comBlogger53125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4060845208960850368.post-82426725589126797202022-07-06T11:32:59.056+01:002022-07-06T11:32:59.056+01:00Anyone know why the cycle path next to 49a running...Anyone know why the cycle path next to 49a running into Earlham being used as well as the footpath closed for the builders?? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4060845208960850368.post-32720084750866832712022-06-13T10:40:36.400+01:002022-06-13T10:40:36.400+01:00does anyone know the latest info on the developeme...does anyone know the latest info on the developement? i can see lots of flats, but no idea on what type of shops will be there. rumours say a lidl will exist anyone know if this is true?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4060845208960850368.post-60476010987450469912020-02-05T17:59:44.719+00:002020-02-05T17:59:44.719+00:00Does anybody know who owns the blue hoardings for ...Does anybody know who owns the blue hoardings for the site? I was thinking maybe we could arrange for a mural to be painted onto them while we wait for whatever is being built behind? The high street is looking a bit sad and maybe a bit of colour might cheer things up. Something like these hoarding murals in Glasgow could be nice?:<br /><br />https://www.glasgowtimes.co.uk/news/16383755.gabriella-marcella-glasgow-artist-brightening-rail-journeys-at-queen-street/Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16805513036545150285noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4060845208960850368.post-55568085114028221122019-06-26T04:35:12.108+01:002019-06-26T04:35:12.108+01:00Valid argument, but also applies to all the 'r...Valid argument, but also applies to all the 'residents' of the properties previously. <br />Just standing waiting could have saved 20 odd businesses being destroyed, let alone those needing rehousing.<br />Typical selfish developers, us, us, us.......Strange that, the same name of Newham, us, us, us.......Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16356221455229799470noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4060845208960850368.post-31772122709523992632019-04-04T14:12:32.961+01:002019-04-04T14:12:32.961+01:00I'm pretty sure not much will happen until Cro...I'm pretty sure not much will happen until Crossrail has an honest, confirmed, completion date. Developers won't want to build and not be able to sell before the line is up and running. Would-be buyers won't pay top price for the "prospect" of a better transport link. So, as far as the developers are concerned, why waste money by building flats now and leaving them empty until the trains are running to the promised schedule and timetable?John Walkerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07186291200017823878noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4060845208960850368.post-16653036344950562882019-04-04T14:07:25.956+01:002019-04-04T14:07:25.956+01:00Been a long time and nothing has happened. Frustra...Been a long time and nothing has happened. Frustrating. The high street seems to be going backwards the last year or so! Jauntyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13698872994172759180noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4060845208960850368.post-37786057049422970512019-04-02T15:15:10.158+01:002019-04-02T15:15:10.158+01:00Anyone know whan this is supposed to be started?Anyone know whan this is supposed to be started?Jonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10864587088891189399noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4060845208960850368.post-65045118386559679722018-10-08T23:25:52.874+01:002018-10-08T23:25:52.874+01:00I don't know why my name was omitted..I don't know why my name was omitted..Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16979397214722573461noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4060845208960850368.post-56613545228591607592018-10-08T23:24:51.776+01:002018-10-08T23:24:51.776+01:00Horrible! Ugly dark(brown) buildings..too high.too...Horrible! Ugly dark(brown) buildings..too high.too large.Bringing brutality and ugliness to the area.Earlham Grove has some beautiful buildings..why can't the developers build something beautiful? That will improve the area?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16979397214722573461noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4060845208960850368.post-59461874951874270412018-06-03T00:51:15.140+01:002018-06-03T00:51:15.140+01:00How very sad. Another ugly bland souless developme...How very sad. Another ugly bland souless development replacing an eclectic mix of interesting old buildings. It's a sad day for this area. The only businesses attracted to these personalityless new builds are boring chain stores. This development will completely dominate especially if the same kind of thing is built on the Methodist Church site. So much for being a conservation area.A. Nonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03085362488433181424noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4060845208960850368.post-29077602715038388662018-04-16T10:27:22.296+01:002018-04-16T10:27:22.296+01:00An update - a sign has appeared outside the shops ...An update - a sign has appeared outside the shops saying Major works July 2018 for 40 weeks, so it seems that work will be kicking off soon. I think it's also now going to be a large LIDL with only a couple of other units (I saw a planning application and a sign notifying that LIDL were applying for an alcohol license).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4060845208960850368.post-8498623719587194942017-11-09T11:19:01.815+00:002017-11-09T11:19:01.815+00:00Overall, I am extremely pleased this development i...Overall, I am extremely pleased this development is going through. Hopefully it will be a positive change – there will be fewer slum dwellings, gambling establishments and fast-food outlets, which has to be a progressive step forward.<br /><br />FYI: The only retailer that has been a constant in this row of shops (Barry's Meat Market) is relocating further up Woodgrange Road to where the Siam Cafe operated previously. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4060845208960850368.post-60060446253443011882017-07-18T19:09:08.290+01:002017-07-18T19:09:08.290+01:00It is approved now so we are gettting what we are ...It is approved now so we are gettting what we are getting. If anything it is not modern enough. We're not in the 1880s and designing a faux Victorian mishmash would have been even worse, in my view. Jauntyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13698872994172759180noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4060845208960850368.post-48147515162510692452017-07-18T13:28:49.779+01:002017-07-18T13:28:49.779+01:00I have lived in Forest Gate all my life. I was bo...I have lived in Forest Gate all my life. I was born in what was Forest Gate Maternity Hospital on Forest Lane and I for one hate the new development with a passion. It is too modern and has absolutely no soul or character. The developers have an amazing opportunity to show some real skill and imagination. Why is it impossible to blend old and new? Why is it impossible to create something characterful? The developers are not thinking outside of the box. (Excuse the obvious pun.) One high street looks very much like another these days. We could and should have so much more. I would like to see a nod to the 1880's - what they propose is so far from replicating 1880's architecture I can't even begin to articulate. Instead of making the new development look more like Durning Hall (remember the "newer" buildings on the high street were thrown up in the 60's with little thought for aesthetics)the developers should be encouraged to strive to create something that is more in keeping with the old (which in my opinion is much more emotionally satisfying). As far as I can see their "aim to be empathetic with Victorian architecture" is so far off the mark they have missed the target completely. Back to the drawing board I say. We have waited this long, we can wait a little longer. We deserve more. We deserve better.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4060845208960850368.post-73696479710962960362017-05-30T16:50:08.669+01:002017-05-30T16:50:08.669+01:00Glad to see some progress. (Slightly OT -I had alw...Glad to see some progress. (Slightly OT -I had always though the block north of Earlham Grove plus the Co-Op was included in these plans. They are a real state, any idea what the futures holds for this bit of the high street?).Jauntyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13698872994172759180noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4060845208960850368.post-61475320071541427102017-05-22T15:21:10.149+01:002017-05-22T15:21:10.149+01:00The parade of shops and offices on the north side ...The parade of shops and offices on the north side of Earlham Grove, running from the corner up towards the station, are the real eyesore. Seems a shame to lose the Victorian buildings (which might have been restored with some investment) while the truly mediocre, massive and dilapidated 1960s block including the old mini police station will stay in place. As for the new building and its 'retail': Tesco Express, Costa Coffee, Subway, KFC... here we come!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4060845208960850368.post-68285204608129969922017-03-30T17:47:47.090+01:002017-03-30T17:47:47.090+01:00At one time I was against the changes but now I ag...At one time I was against the changes but now I agree with you. Woodgrange Road is going down hill rapidly. I will miss Barry but as for everything else I will be glad to see the back of it. At least we will have one less betting shop. Also, the paving on the whole road needs redoing as it is a health and safety hazard, particularly, for older people.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4060845208960850368.post-50054300863032787012017-03-21T20:10:24.595+00:002017-03-21T20:10:24.595+00:00So the planning has been knocked back. Hopefully t...So the planning has been knocked back. Hopefully there will be progress soon as it is all getting a bit shabby as no new investment. Understandably as all to be knocked down at some point. I do think people referring to a 'Victorian high st' as if Forest Gate is some kind of historical delight is a bit much though. Is everyone looking at the same high street as me?Jauntyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13698872994172759180noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4060845208960850368.post-4852710681017006382017-03-08T13:45:56.735+00:002017-03-08T13:45:56.735+00:00A few thoughts from me:
1. The current parade of ...A few thoughts from me:<br /><br />1. The current parade of shops isn't particularly attractive. That said, it is hard to gauge exactly what the new proposals will look like from some vague artistic impressions. Does anyone have any examples of other projects carried out by the same architects? This might give us a better idea of the proposals.<br />2. I noticed the following comment with interest: "we used to have dance halls a cinema ,a roller skating rink and lots more things to do in this area until money became more important than happiness and a decent way of life". Is there any way in which the council could put a requirement on the development to ensure that there is come kind of cultural provision included (for example, a cinema/theatre/dance hall) as part of their planning permission? This could either be i. at ground level; ii. on the first floor (could we insist on such a space in place of flats at Level One?); or iii. at the reverse of the building if an outdoor facility. <br />3. With regards to the impact on local businesses, i. I can completely understand the concern of Barry if he were to be uprooted for two years. I wonder if there is any way in which the council could give businesses impacted first reserve on other lots which become vacant between now and the proposal?; ii. If the proposal increases the population of the High Street, that will surely be good for local businesses, who will have more customers?; iii. At the Olympic Village, they took steps to ensure that the shops at ground level were independent businesses and not chains - I recognise these are all quite expensive, but I wonder if there are levers for ensuring a decent number of independent businesses; iv. Ultimately - and I recognise this is a complex issue - we as Forest Gaters decide which businesses thrive and which businesses fail according to how we spend our money. If we want to keep local businesses, then we need to keep shopping at them.<br /><br />Appreciate I might be very late to the party on this one.<br /><br />Stanleynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4060845208960850368.post-72411725344741065592017-02-18T19:01:21.202+00:002017-02-18T19:01:21.202+00:00Any one know for certain if the planning went thro...Any one know for certain if the planning went through?Jauntyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13698872994172759180noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4060845208960850368.post-12095383944317765802016-12-26T01:38:15.206+00:002016-12-26T01:38:15.206+00:00I think the plan looks fairly well judged. We don&...I think the plan looks fairly well judged. We don't want really want fake victorian style buildings that fit in with the local area. More people will bring the need for more and better standard of shops and cafes. Barry's will have alot more customers when the new residents are in which will cover the increased rent. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12259058668116414831noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4060845208960850368.post-71424626811523579312016-12-04T13:23:25.067+00:002016-12-04T13:23:25.067+00:00Three! Look again - there are five shops which ar...Three! Look again - there are five shops which are halal butchers or grocers/butchers on Woodgrange Road. On Upton Lane there at least four! I do wonder if any of them make a profit.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4060845208960850368.post-1606441045499928322016-11-19T19:01:23.748+00:002016-11-19T19:01:23.748+00:00Great just what we need another halal butcher. Tha...Great just what we need another halal butcher. That makes it 3 in one street. Main while the one we all know and are familiar with Barry's gets to closeAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4060845208960850368.post-15579605174082369572016-11-07T21:45:02.904+00:002016-11-07T21:45:02.904+00:00I heard from one of Barry's staff that the pro...I heard from one of Barry's staff that the proposal had been given planning permission. He looked very glum. A crying shame. On the other hand we have another halal butcher opening up were the police office used to be....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4060845208960850368.post-18587113907374137632016-08-30T16:01:18.468+01:002016-08-30T16:01:18.468+01:00We understand that the planning application has go...We understand that the planning application has gone in, with few, if any alterations. The consultation period has produced very few objections, and nothing very substantial from those most likely to be directly affected (e.g Barry's).<br /><br />The developers still hope for planning approval by the start of the ye year. Most retailers are on a max 6 months notice period and these will be run down from next January; some are already in arrears and effectively looking for their next move, or closure.<br /><br />The shops are now effectively "planning blighted" and investment in them has stopped by owners and leasees (although the dry cleaners is installing an ATM, to compensate for that taken out by the now-closed Santander).<br /><br />Empty shops will increase in number along the affected row from the new year, although it is quite likley there will be some very short term pop-up options appearing, and possibly a charity or heavy discount clearance/bankrupt stock type shop opening.<br /><br />All confirmed news of progress, greatly appreciated. Please add below.John Walkerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07186291200017823878noreply@blogger.com