Showing posts with label Forest Gate. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Forest Gate. Show all posts

The off-licence at 16 Barwick Road

Monday, 26 May 2025

Regular contributor Peter Williams continues his history of unusual and interesting buildings in Forest Gate. Here he examines the history of an off-licence called Capel Arms, 16 Barwick Rd, which was not a pub despite its name. It is just around the corner from 10 Capel Road, which he considered in a previous article (here).

This slightly unusual building looks like this. The shop has been empty for many years.

June 2016 author photo

Early history

It seems that the developer of the new shop was Mr Deller. He had a few problems with the council, which refused him permission to build it and threatened to take action against him if he did. However, they must have reached a compromise, as it was eventually built.

West Ham and South Essex Mail - 30 May 1891

Then, there is this fascinating advert, a month later. It seems the builder of 16 had already built a house in Upton for £200 and needed to get rid of it quickly. We learn from this that in the Victorian period, owners tended not to sell the freeholds of their properties, but to let them on a long lease, for about 90 years. This enabled them to keep their investment properties. There were few freehold owner-occupied properties then, when typically the rent of a terraced house in Forest Gate would have been around £100 p.a.

West Ham and South Essex Mail - 30 May 1891

Deller was probably short of money to develop 16 Barwick and needed to get rid of the house in Upton quickly (“must be sold at once”) to raise some cash. Many small terraces were developed in Forest Gate at this period on a shoestring by small business folk with virtually no capital.

If you ever need to research the history of licensed premises, the website pubwiki is incredibly useful in this part of East London. In 1890, the licence holder was shown as William Deller, who was a "beer retailer."

Below is the advert he placed to accompany his application for a licence:

Stratford Express - 10 August 1892

His wife took over the licence by 1896. Subsequent occupants of the property were Joseph Spurgeon (beer seller) and his wife Margaret, along with Thomas and Sydney Carter, who would appear to have been Margaret's children via a previous marriage, and Florence Johns, a servant (1901 census).

By 1906, the licensee was Walter Charles Melsom, and by the 1911 census, it was Charles Hodgson. Other occupants of the property at the time were husband and wife John and Frances Crawford (Source: census). 

Hodgson was replaced in 1914, as licensee by Nellie Ivory.

East End News and London Shipping Chronicle - 29 September 1914

Who, in turn, was replaced by Robert Curtie, the following year

East End News and London Shipping Chronicle - 20 July 1915

One notable feature gleaned from these cuttings is how many pubs in Forest Gate have disappeared!

Some families publish whole family trees on the internet, which are a rich source of research information. Below is a relevant example. The extract suggests that Edgar Sydney Durham was the tenant of the off-licence between 1936 and 1952 and a member of the Durham family, which ran a number of licensed premises in London in the first half of the twentieth century. 


source here


1939 register

At the time of the 1939 Official Register, although the pub was licensed to Edgar Jacobs, the residents of 16 Barwick Street was Edgar Durham.

Source: Ancestry

Edgar Durham c 1919 - source: family history

Edgar Sydney Durham’s 2 children (source: family history)

The caption on the 1949 photo, on the family history site, says: "Opposite the off-licence, Barwick Road, Forest Gate, Essex". Edgar Sydney’s son says: “the house was opposite the off-licence, which had recently lost all its shop windows, in a blast from a nearby landmine, whilst not far away a bus finished up with its nose in a bomb crater.”


From the Durham family history site

Freeholders

So far, we have considered the licensees and leaseholders of 16 Barwick Road. What of the freeholders?

An examination of these explains the "Charrington's" name plate that adorned the premises for much of the off-licence's existence. Business premises can be quite easy to research on the internet, as there are many specialised resources available.

The original building owner/leaseholder of 16 Barwick was Savill Brothers of Maryland Road, Stratford. This company was founded 1856 and registered as a limited company in December 1893. It ran the Stratford brewery and was acquired by Charrington and Sons in 1925.

Savill’s ran 14 pubs in the Newham area, including the Capel Arms, Burnell Arms and Blakesley Arms, both in Manor Park, the Browning Arms, Earl of Wakefield and Black Lion, all of East Ham, as well as the nearby Woodhouse Tavern, on Harrow Road. (source: here).

Note empty site to the left, probably bomb damage. Wanstead Flats to the left.Source: their family history site .

 

 

The view into Barwick Rd about 1900

There is a shop on the corner lost to bombing presumably as the 1940s photos above show an empty site here. 

It was later built on – see below

 

The same corner a few years ago

The same corner a few years ago. The derelict off licence is behind.

 

 Modern history of the off-licence

Prior to the current owners, the shop was operated by a family called Gregg. This was in the 50s and 60s.

A Sikh family took it on and it operated till early 2000s when it closed for good. The shop remains in the same semi derelict condition.

 

Strange footnote

There is evidence above that the current 16 Barwick Road was only constructed in 1891. Yet we see below that somebody died at that address in 1889!

This leads to an intriguing tale concerning 25 Capel Road, which Peter has previously considered on this blog (see here), as Forest Gate’s oldest continuously inhabited house. He will explore the intrigue in a later article!

Source: Probate records, via Ancestry

 


Out now!

Sunday, 29 August 2021

Out of Sight, Out of Mind -
Abuse, Neglect and Fire in a London Children’s Workhouse, 1854 - 1907

This book has just been published by the author of this website. It was inspired by stories I have written about here concerning the old "industrial school, later maternity hospital on Forest Lane, E7.

 

The full story has never been told before, and from my early digging, I knew there was a real tale to tell. About a year ferreting away in various archives confirmed the fact. Lockdown gave me the opportunity to put the book together.

I hope you will find it an interesting read and a worthwhile project. Most of the material in it is new to the public domain and I believe that it will add considerably to an understanding of the development of not just the local establishment, but also about the history of looked-after children in Britain.

 


It is a local story, told within a national setting

Local story provides:

 

·         Descriptions of the lives of 50,000 Victorian east London pauper children, from age two, trapped in an institution, where:
·         abuse, neglect, ill-discipline and corruption were rife.
·         An account of a highly acclaimed naval training vessel run by the school in Grays, which tragically perished after five years.
·         Local heroes and villains emerge in Forest Gate, whose stories are told for the first time.
·         A record of how Britain’s first female workhouse school governor – Henrietta Barnett - led the charge to close the institution after public health and fire disasters in the 1890s.
·         The successful struggles of future MPs - Will Crooks and George Lansbury - who cut their public service teeth closing the Forest Gate school.
·         The onward journey of the buildings which became a maternity hospital and birth place of 50,000 twentieth century East Enders.

 

National setting relates:

 


·         Details of state and religious responses to 1,000 years of child poverty in England.
·         An account of 200 years of institutional care of looked-after children, nationwide.
·         The failure of Victorian confused thinking and policy in addressing pauper children.
·         Proposals and innovative moves from home, abroad and Britain’s first female public servant – Jane Senior - to address the question of looked-after children.
·         The 50-year record of how complacent and unimaginative Victorian governments responded to workhouse children.
·         How positive changes in approach from charities, churches and local initiatives were largely ignored by successive late nineteenth century governments.
·         How a national campaign to close “barrack schools”, was successfully conducted by Henrietta Barnett, following her Forest Gate experience.
·         A detailed examination of how dozens of other institutional solutions - over a 200-year period - addressed the needs of looked-after children in England and abroad.
·         How Forest Gate pioneers set the tone for twentieth century institutional child care policy and practice in Britain.
 
 

Sources

The readable and annotated book draws on my research into national and local archives, nineteenth century newspapers and previously unpublished memoirs.

The launch

It took place at a well attended event at the Newham Bookshop on Thursday 26 August 2021. Thank you to all who attended, for making it such a memorable occasion.

  

 

 

 

Some early reviews

“Chuffed to bits for John Walker … who has published this important book – a memorial to the many, many East London children who passed through its workhouses (some of whom never came home).”

Dr Louise Raw, historian of the Matchwomen: Striking a Light. BBC Radio London historian and Bishopsgate lecturer.

 

 “Amazing E7.NowAndThen.org book on the history of the building next to ours. Detailed research, massive compassion and heart in telling a story that unfortunately we may not have learned from. … Immensely readable and really fascinating. Really touched by it.”

 Jane Williams, CEO/Founder, The Magpie Project

Some press coverage 

  

Newham Voices - September 2021 

 

Publishing details

Title: Out of Sight, Out of Mind 

Subtitle: Abuse, Neglect and Fire in a London Children’s Workhouse - 1854-1907

Author: John Walker

Publication date: 26 August 2021

Format: Paperback, Trim size: 6”x9”, Pages: 252,  Price: £12.99

ISBN: 978-1-1-7399142-0-2

Publisher: E7-NowAndThen.org

Includes: 37 illustrations and pen portraits of over 25 former inmates

Available from: Newham Bookshop and all other good book suppliers